that's a great thing, steve. we should do it right now. >> right. >> and everyone knows it's coming. that's the other thing. it's not as though -- >> do they? >> i don't think so. >> the utility companies, the coal companies, the fossil fuel industry, this is something they're examining every day. everyone is looking at what the emissions rate around the world is. the fact that the earth is warming very, very quickly. the arctic is melts in front of our ois. the city of new york was closed down from a massive storm. this is very much present. steve said we used to say it's a problem of the future. it's a problem of now, and we have to build the pauktics to get that result. >> there's a massive link between flooding in the brooklyn battery tunnel and a carbon tax. >> i think people are awakening to the impact. >> even exxon mobile, their corporate planning department assumes a price on carbon is coming. it's a question of timing and amount. everybody understands in the business that the politics are rising. they'r